Do you mind taking this discussion to the coop list instead. > > Starting a reseller coop registrar solve many issues for resellars > Each reseller will have direct input into how the registrar is managed. > Resellar domain name costs will be cheaper. and it could extend outside > the > .au name space! > No need to change registrars because price/service - the resellar has > influenced as a coop member. > Resellers can co-opperate to reduce costs of infrastructure for the coop > which could then convert to lower costs for the resellar. > > there are many pros for this idea. far more than the cons > > > <snip> >>What I want to protect, though, is my other business income - websites, >>hosting and other on-line services that my registrar can now decide he > wants >>to take away from me. Not because he's earned the right, and not because >>he's developed any relationship with my client or given them any service, >>and not because he's competed fairly - he can solely because I'm >> compelled >>to hand over my customer to my registrar who is now my competitor. >> >>I fully endorse the protective measures that were put in place for >>registrants. I don't endorse the fact that resellers are now >> nonentities. >> >>Ron Stark > > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: John Thomson [mailto:john§hep10.com] >>Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 3:16 PM >>To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >>Subject: RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar >>relationship >> >> >>My approach. >>Keep in mind a lot of our business system is based on clients >>using our CMS. >>We don't add a mark-up to domain registration and because >>people use our CMS >>they really have little choice about hosting. The reasoning behind this >>system is then if people try to match us on registration >>pricing then we are >>always cheaper. This way on apples vs apples we are >>exceptional value. We >>have had clients approached on differing web options and they >>simply ask how >>much to register a domain name. >> >>They can't directly compare us on hosting options as our CMS gives us a >>unique point of difference. This is proving an effective deterrent to >>competitors for us and gives clients a perception we are good value. If >>anyone has feedback on this system I'd love to hear it. >> >>Thanks >> >>John >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ian D Johnston [mailto:ian.johnston§infobrokers.com.au] >>Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 2:54 PM >>To: DNS >>Cc: Ron Stark >>Subject: RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar >>relationship >> >> >>Ron >> >>You have touched on one of a number of issues of concern to >>resellers (I >>presume) ... a resellers' association is an interesting >>response. It looks >>as >>though auDA might have another representative class member ;-). >> >>What I find missing from the auDA environment is a forum in >>which auDA, auDA >>Panel members, industry participants, stakeholders and >>citizens collectively >>*engage* one another on specific issues. I appreciate the >>participation of >>a >>small number of people on this list (who are Board members). >>In the past >>there >>was talk of an auDA members' list. >> >>Ian Johnston >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark§snapsite.com.au] >>> Sent: 23 June 2003 10:53 AM >>> To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >>> Subject: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar relationship >>> >>> To me the central issue is whether, as a reseller, I'm empowering a >>> competitor to my own detriment. >>> >>> My customer list (as distinct from my contact list) is a key >>asset to my >>> business. As a reseller of domain names I'm obligated to not only >>disclose >>> that list, but to entrust it to my registrar. Having inherited my >>customer, >>> that registrar can then approach them with impunity, because auDA's >>> jurisdiction does not extend beyond domain names. >>> >>> If my registrar offers competing services to my clients I >>have a serious >>> reservation in dealing with that registrar. If a registrar >>approaches my >>> _potential_ customer and wins the business, that's fair >>competition. If >>my >>> registrar simply adopts my _existing_ customer and takes my business, >>that's >>> piracy. >>> >>> I know of no other commercial endeavour in which a business >>is compelled >>to >>> hand over their customers to their competitors, with neither >>protection >>not >>> recourse. And here's a challenge to registrars - who will >>give a cast >>iron >>> guarantee that I as a reseller am not at risk from such >>predatory business >>> practice. >>> >>> Is there anybody out there interested in establishing a Reseller's >>> Association to restore some balance / equity in this >>minefield of reseller >>/ >>> registrar relationships? >>> >>> Ron Stark >>> mailto:ronstark§snapsite.com.au >>> >>> >>> >>--------------------------------------------------------------- >>----------- >>- >>> List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >>http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >>> Please do not retransmit articles on this list without >>permission of the >>> author, further information at the above URL. 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