You're absolutely right. I've subscribed to the new list that Richard Archer has set up. Anybody wants to join in the discussion please do so by: To subscribe: send an empty email to: dnscoop-subscribe§juggernaut.com.au To send mail to the list: dnscoop§juggernaut.com.au .. with thanks to Richard. >-----Original Message----- >From: luci§conexim.com.au [mailto:luci§conexim.com.au] >Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 3:51 PM >To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >Subject: RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar >relationship > > >Do you mind taking this discussion to the coop list instead. > > >> >> Starting a reseller coop registrar solve many issues for resellars >> Each reseller will have direct input into how the registrar >is managed. >> Resellar domain name costs will be cheaper. and it could >extend outside >> the >> .au name space! >> No need to change registrars because price/service - the resellar has >> influenced as a coop member. >> Resellers can co-opperate to reduce costs of infrastructure >for the coop >> which could then convert to lower costs for the resellar. >> >> there are many pros for this idea. far more than the cons >> >> >> <snip> >>>What I want to protect, though, is my other business income >- websites, >>>hosting and other on-line services that my registrar can now >decide he >> wants >>>to take away from me. Not because he's earned the right, >and not because >>>he's developed any relationship with my client or given them >any service, >>>and not because he's competed fairly - he can solely because I'm >>> compelled >>>to hand over my customer to my registrar who is now my competitor. >>> >>>I fully endorse the protective measures that were put in place for >>>registrants. I don't endorse the fact that resellers are now >>> nonentities. >>> >>>Ron Stark >> >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: John Thomson [mailto:john§hep10.com] >>>Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 3:16 PM >>>To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >>>Subject: RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar >>>relationship >>> >>> >>>My approach. >>>Keep in mind a lot of our business system is based on clients >>>using our CMS. >>>We don't add a mark-up to domain registration and because >>>people use our CMS >>>they really have little choice about hosting. The reasoning >behind this >>>system is then if people try to match us on registration >>>pricing then we are >>>always cheaper. This way on apples vs apples we are >>>exceptional value. We >>>have had clients approached on differing web options and they >>>simply ask how >>>much to register a domain name. >>> >>>They can't directly compare us on hosting options as our CMS >gives us a >>>unique point of difference. This is proving an effective deterrent to >>>competitors for us and gives clients a perception we are >good value. If >>>anyone has feedback on this system I'd love to hear it. >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>John >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Ian D Johnston [mailto:ian.johnston§infobrokers.com.au] >>>Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 2:54 PM >>>To: DNS >>>Cc: Ron Stark >>>Subject: RE: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar >>>relationship >>> >>> >>>Ron >>> >>>You have touched on one of a number of issues of concern to >>>resellers (I >>>presume) ... a resellers' association is an interesting >>>response. It looks >>>as >>>though auDA might have another representative class member ;-). >>> >>>What I find missing from the auDA environment is a forum in >>>which auDA, auDA >>>Panel members, industry participants, stakeholders and >>>citizens collectively >>>*engage* one another on specific issues. I appreciate the >>>participation of >>>a >>>small number of people on this list (who are Board members). >>>In the past >>>there >>>was talk of an auDA members' list. >>> >>>Ian Johnston >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Ron Stark [mailto:ronstark§snapsite.com.au] >>>> Sent: 23 June 2003 10:53 AM >>>> To: dns§lists.auda.org.au >>>> Subject: [DNS] More on the issue of reseller / registrar >relationship >>>> >>>> To me the central issue is whether, as a reseller, I'm empowering a >>>> competitor to my own detriment. >>>> >>>> My customer list (as distinct from my contact list) is a key >>>asset to my >>>> business. As a reseller of domain names I'm obligated to not only >>>disclose >>>> that list, but to entrust it to my registrar. Having inherited my >>>customer, >>>> that registrar can then approach them with impunity, because auDA's >>>> jurisdiction does not extend beyond domain names. >>>> >>>> If my registrar offers competing services to my clients I >>>have a serious >>>> reservation in dealing with that registrar. If a registrar >>>approaches my >>>> _potential_ customer and wins the business, that's fair >>>competition. If >>>my >>>> registrar simply adopts my _existing_ customer and takes >my business, >>>that's >>>> piracy. >>>> >>>> I know of no other commercial endeavour in which a business >>>is compelled >>>to >>>> hand over their customers to their competitors, with neither >>>protection >>>not >>>> recourse. And here's a challenge to registrars - who will >>>give a cast >>>iron >>>> guarantee that I as a reseller am not at risk from such >>>predatory business >>>> practice. >>>> >>>> Is there anybody out there interested in establishing a Reseller's >>>> Association to restore some balance / equity in this >>>minefield of reseller >>>/ >>>> registrar relationships? >>>> >>>> Ron Stark >>>> mailto:ronstark§snapsite.com.au >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------- >>>----------- >>>- >>>> List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >>>http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >>>> Please do not retransmit articles on this list without >>>permission of the >>>> author, further information at the above URL. (368 subscribers.) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------- >>>------------ >>>List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >>>http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >>>Please do not retransmit >>>articles on this list without permission of the >>>author, further information at the above URL. (368 subscribers.) >>> >>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------- >>>------------ >>>List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >>>http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >>>Please do not retransmit >>>articles on this list without permission of the >>>author, further information at the above URL. (368 subscribers.) >>> >> >> >> >--------------------------------------------------------------- >------------ >> List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >> http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >> Please do not retransmit articles on this list without >permission of the >> author, further information at the above URL. (368 subscribers.) >> >> >> >--------------------------------------------------------------- >------------ >> List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >> http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >> Please do not retransmit articles on this list without >permission of the >> author, further information at the above URL. (368 subscribers.) >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >------------ >List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >Please do not retransmit >articles on this list without permission of the >author, further information at the above URL. (368 subscribers.) >Received on Fri Oct 03 2003 - 00:00:00 UTC
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