Further to Craig Ng's point below, from an economic perspective, having the consumer surplus* captured by auDA and redistributed for the benefit of the Australian Internet community (and those who are yet to become part of it), has a lot going for it. (* Consumer surplus is defined as the difference between what consumers are willing to pay for a unit of the good and the amount consumers actually do pay for the product. See <http://internationalecon.com/v1.0/ch90/90c080.html>.) Indeed, it was my concern that cybersquatters and other speculators should not benefit from windfall gains, that would otherwise have accrued to them, that led me to argue for auctioning of (rights to) generic domain names in the Name Policy Advisory Panel's Final Report to the auDA Board <www.auda.org.au/docs/auda-name-eligibility-final.html#ATTB>. Ian -- Ian Johnston, Policy Consultant Small Enterprise Telecommunications Centre (SETEL) www.setel.com.au mailto:ian.johnston§setel.com.au 02 6258 3409 (B/F) 02 6259 7777 (B) 0413 990 112 (M) SETEL is a national small business consumer association advancing the interest of Australian small business as telecommunications and e-commerce consumers -----Original Message----- From: craig.ng§maddocks.com.au [mailto:craig.ng§maddocks.com.au] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:04 PM To: bw§efe.com.au; dns§lists.auda.org.au Subject: Re: [DNS] RE: bizcatalyst.com.au Bernard You may care to note that auDA is a non-profit organisation. This means that the proceeds will be used to fund the operating costs of managing .au. The higher the proceeds from the auction, the lower amount of levy will need to be imposed on domain name registrations in the long run. It is not as though the money disappears into someone's pocket! com.au is after all a commercial domain. What is wrong with getting the market to fund such operating costs and other projects which ultimately benefit the Australian Internet community (which auDA is obliged to do under its constitution)? Craig Craig Ng Partner Maddocks t +613 9288 0523 f +613 9288 0666 e craig.ng§maddocks.com.au >>> "bw§efe.com.au" 20/09/02 4:57:45 pm >>> Rod, Was it fair that the person with most money won the domain? Wouldnt drawing them from a hat been better? Yes i agree, money make the world go round, the auDA is making sure they stop that too AFTER they made theirs I was part of serveral auctions that went for quite large sums, nobody knows it yet tho because the cards are not all on the table. Bernard Weekes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rod Keys" <rod§ddns.com.au> To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [DNS] RE: bizcatalyst.com.au > Bernard, > 1/ There was huge demand for the generic names to be released. > 2/ What is the fairest way to licence them. > 3/ What good are they sitting doing nothing. > 4/ It became revenue for AUDA to manage the .au namespace for all > stakeholders including you. > With attitude like that you would stop governments selling anything be it > personalised numberplates or Telstra. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bw" <bw§efe.com.au> > To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 4:05 PM > Subject: Re: [DNS] RE: bizcatalyst.com.au > > > > No, i'm asking why the auDA made money yet the auDA have now made rules > that > > no one else can. > > > > Bernard Weekes > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Adrian Chadd" <adrian§creative.net.au> > > To: <dns§lists.auda.org.au> > > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [DNS] RE: bizcatalyst.com.au > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2002, bw wrote: > > > > Ethics? > > > > > > > > if no one can own a domain to sell or lease then why did the auctions > > occur? > > > > > > Hm. I could have sworn I read somewhere in the auda documentation > > > that as long as you continue to meet the eleigibility requirements > > > you're guaranteed to renew the domain name after a 2-year licence > period. > > > > > > Could someone verify that for me? > > > If its the case, then it makes the "auction" logical (at least from the > > perspective > > > that you seem to be asking..) > > > > > > > > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > -- > > > Adrian Chadd "<WeBGrrL> i WAS a lesbian.....but now i love everyone :P" > > > <adrian§creative.net.au> > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > > List policy, unsubscribing and archives => > > http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ > > > Please do not retransmit articles on this list without permission of the > > > author, further information at the above URL. 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