RE: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC

RE: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC

From: Ginger FISH <ginger-fish§scifi-art.com>
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:54:32 +1000
Here is Page 2 of the DDNS document.
I had someone to watch me in  my sleep just in case i would sleepwalk, turn
the computer on and alter that document.
Fortunately, it did not happen so i am confident about the authenticity of
the document.

http://www.scifi-art.com/ginger-investigations/another_one_for_the_ACCC_p2.j
pg

As you can see , you can even have a framable certificate of OWNERSHIP
 like you own a domain name, yeah right ) for $20, that is a bargain and it
is beautiful on the wall.

Oh by the way Rod, a long time ago, my english teacher taught me that you
don't write " We'll do this, We'll do that", it should "we WILL do this, we
WILL do that..." otherwise it really looks tacky..


Ginger

PS : you can see the date on the document, 15/04/2002, as you can see it is
VERY old indeed !



-----Original Message-----
From: Ginger FISH [mailto:ginger-fish&#167;scifi-art.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:46 PM
To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
Subject: RE: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC



As previously stated by Rod Keys:  "Mr.C.Disspain has looked at our doc and
was clear it was not misleading."


Do you mean :
Mr Chris Disspain, CEO of auDA ( .au self regulated Administration ) agreed
that you could use the subject marketing material and mass mail .au
registrants that have had no previous dealings with "Domain Names Discount
Services" ?

If this is not what you meant, please clarify as i wouldn't want to be
making baseless accusations.


Best Regards
Ginger


-----Original Message-----
From: Rod Keys [mailto:rod&#167;ddns.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:13 PM
To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
Subject: Re: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC


the scanned copy was not complete and altered.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael-Pappas" <auda&#167;michael-pappas.com>
To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC


> Rod,
>
> Would be interested in what you think was changed.???
>
> Simply to say it was is all well and good, but it's hard to change printed
> material that your customers ring you about....
>
> Michael-Pappas.
>
>
> >
> > How completely ridiculous Rod.
> >
> > The unsolicited renewal notices received by my clients recently from
> > Discount Domain Name Services are identical to the one posted to this
> > list yesterday. The correspondence posted was definitely intact and has
> > not been altered in any way save and except removal of the registrant's
> > personal details.
> >
> >
> > JM.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rod Keys [mailto:rod&#167;ddns.com.au]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2002 1:28 PM
> > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC
> >
> >
> > No that is incorrect the scanned copy was not complete and altered.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Domain Registration Services" <mail&#167;domainregistration.com.au>
> > To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 1:06 PM
> > Subject: RE: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC
> >
> >
> >> Rod,
> >>
> >> I spoke to you personally with regards to your recent marketing just a
> >> few days ago and your attitude of
> >> "so what, I can change it overnight to save my ass if I have to"  was
> >> extremely arrogant and none the less disappointing.
> >> I spend half my days dealing with clients complaining about receiving
> >> this type of deceptive marketing from ING etc., and it's unbelievably
> >> annoying
> > to
> >> think that as the ACCC knocks one on the head yet another deceptive
> >> marketing scheme surfaces.
> >>
> >> To everyone reading this list, the domain renewal notice posted
> >> yesterday addressed to "Accounts Payable" is definitely intact and
> >> unaltered as it
> > is
> >> identical to that received by a number of my clients in recent days.
> >> Original documents will be forwarded to the ACCC, auDA, and to Mr Josh
> > Rowe
> >> forthwith.
> >>
> >> Rod Keys, you are on the COC Committee and yet you are sending out
> >> unsolicited renewal notices to consumers your company has  had no
> >> prior dealings with.  I expect you would clean up your act and
> >> apologise to this community for your very recent  deception instead of
> >> trying to pull the
> > wool
> >> over everyone's eyes. Facts and the truth may embarrass you Rod, but
> >> they are what they are and there is no denying. Upon receipt of the
> > documentation
> >> it will be enlightening to see if Chris actually does think your
> >> marketing practices are clean and in accordance with the interim coc.
> >>
> >> Regards.
> >>
> >> J. Maiolo
> >> Domain Registration Services
> >> (Melbourne IT Re-seller)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rod Keys [mailto:rod&#167;ddns.com.au]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2002 9:53 AM
> >> To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> >> Subject: Re: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC
> >>
> >>
> >> Josh,
> >> 1/ We no longer use the address accounts payable gone!! What was used
> >> was old and not complete and altered.. copyright violation perhaps.
> >> Mr.C. Disspain has looked at our doc and was clear it was not
> >> misleading. 2/ The actual certificate is quite clear it's a domain
> >> name licence.
> >>
> >> Rod
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Josh Rowe" <josh&#167;email.nu>
> >> To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
> >> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:39 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [DNS] Discount Domains and the ACCC
> >>
> >>
> >> > I've put it onto my web site too:
> >> > http://www.whatsinaname.com.au/renewals/wDDNS02.jpg
> >> >
> >> > Is there a second page Ginger?
> >> >
> >> > A couple of things to note about this renewal advice:
> >> >
> >> > 1. It's addressed to "Accounts Payable" - possibly contrary to the
> >> > COP
> >> >
> >> > 2. "We Support the AUDA resellers code of conduct" - so does ING.
> >> >
> >> > 3. "Certificate of Domain Name Ownership" - domain names aren't
> >> > owned, they are licenced.
> >> >
> >> > It's also very similar to DDNS's last renewal advice:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.whatsinaname.com.au/renewals/wLI01a.jpg
> >> > http://www.whatsinaname.com.au/renewals/wLI01b.jpg
> >> >
> >> > For the complete set:
> >> > http://www.whatsinaname.com.au/renewals/
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Josh
> >> > --
> >> > josh&#167;email.nu
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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