Michael

Thanks for the fill in I will study this very carefully.

Regards,
James Austin

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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Malone <mmalone&#167;creole.iinet.net.au>
To: dns&#167;iia.net.au <dns§iia.net.au>
Date: Wednesday, 25 February 1998 11:20
Subject: Re: DNS: Re: DNS


>
>> This posting is addressed to Robert Elz and Co.
>
>I'm not in that group, but I'll have a go.
>
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>> 1.    Who is the Licensor of .AU Domain Space?
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>Robert Elz.
>
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>> 2.    What are the contact details for this
Person/Corporation/Department?
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>kre&#167;munnari.oz.au
>
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>> 3.    Who are the licenses for .AU?
>> 4.    What Space do they administer?
>
>I'm not sure what you mean by this question.  But the responsibility
>for some 2LD's have been delegated by Robert to:
>
>Melbourne IT (COM.AU apparently on a "non exclusive basis")
>Hugh Irvine (NET.AU, and he has apparently delegated this to
connect.com.au)
>Geoff Huston (GOV.AU, EDU.AU and I think) INFO.AU
>Robert Elz himself (ORG.AU, CONF.AU and others)
>Michael Malone (ASN.AU, itty bitty one)
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>ID.AU has been delegated to lots of people at the 3LD level.
>
>
>> 5.    What are the Contact details for the above?
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>See http://aunic.net and follow the links.
>
>
>> 6.    How much did it cost to become a licensee?
>
>Nothing.  All of these 2LD's were delegated long ago.  All of them
>were handled for free, by the volunteers, as well, so nobody really
>cared either.  Managing 2LD's didn't really have any monetary
>value.
>
>Robert Elz was handling COM.AU himself, and falling way way behind
>by mid 1996, as the number of COM.AU registrations really started
>to take off.  People were waiting around 2 months for a COM.AU domain
>name if memory serves me right.  Remember there was no charge, so
>Robert was doing it in his spare time and was unable to keep up.  He
>delegated authority for COM.AU to Melbourne IT in October 1996. The
>details of this are not public, although we know that it is a five
>year non exclusive license.
>
>Melbourne IT charged for COM.AU domain names, of course.  So all the
>ISP's started recommending their clients to gett NET.AU domains instead.
>After about a month of this, connect.com.au also started to charge a
>fee, so they could employ people to handle the load.
>
>ORG.AU, CONF.AU, GOV.AU, EDU.AU and ASN.AU remain free and are
>handled by the volunteers named above.
>
>
>> 7.    Who controls and sets policy for these licensee's?
>> 8.    What are the contact details for the above?
>
>Good question.  Each of the 2LD admins listed above sets there
>own policy.  Apparently this is not the case for Melbourne IT.
>M-IT inherited the policy that was in place with Robert, and
>they only change it by consultation and agreement with the 'net
>community.
>
>
>> 9.    By what authority does ADNA operate over DNS in .AU?
>
>ADNA currently has no authority at all.  The intention is that
>each of the 2LD delegates, and Robert as delegate for .AU, will
>cede their authority to ADNA.  Obviously, this would only happen
>if we all saw ADNA as a viable solution, operating fairly, and
>unlikely to damage the Australian DNS.
>
>
>> 10.  What are the contact details for ADNA?
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>http://www.adna.asn.au
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>> 11.  How many other Organisation are involved in DNS administration is
.AU?
>> 12.  What are the contact details of these organisations?
>
>Umm.  There are about 500 ISP's in Australia, all of whom are involved
>in paying registries such as M-IT and CCA, promoting the .AU name space,
>and/or lobbying ADNA if not directly involved or represented.  The AVCC has
>a very strong voice with respect to EDU.AU.  Several organisations are
>members of ADNA.  ISOC-AU has shown itself to be influential, mainly due
>to the efforts of some knowledgable board members.  I suppose that if
Alston
>stepped in, then the government could reasonably claim authority if they
>wished, although that would be interesting to watch.
>
>So, "lots of organisations are involved".  The intention is that these
>organisations will focus into ADNA, leaving one authority.
>
>
>> I look forward to receiving the requested information.
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>Don't take my answers as gospel.
>
>MM
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