[DNS] Secondary Market

[DNS] Secondary Market

From: Sean K. Finn <Sean.Finn§ozservers.com.au>
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:21:00 +1000
My Apologies:

http://www.auda.org.au/about/about-overview/

In December 2000, the Australian Government formally endorsed auDA as
the appropriate body to administer the .au domain space. The Government
holds reserve powers in relation to domain names under the
Telecommunications Act 1997. 

More Specifically:

http://www.iana.org/cctld/au/alston-to-watson-31dec00.htm

Quote:

> The Commonwealth's endorsement of auDA as the appropriate entity to
hold > the delegation of authority for administration of the au ccTLD is
subject at > all times to auDA
> operating within the provisions of its company constitution and to the
> fulfilment by auDA of the following conditions:

> Given that the Internet naming system is a public resource in the
sense > that its functions must be administered in the public or common
interest, auDA recognises
> that the management and administration of the au ccTLD are subject to
the ultimate authority of the Commonwealth of Australia;

/QUOTE

Please note,. 
"its functions must be administered in the public or common interest"

Public / Common Interest


-----Original Message-----
From: dns-bounces+sean.finn=ozservers.com.au&#167;dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+sean.finn=ozservers.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Sandali
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:07 PM
To: .au DNS Discussion List
Subject: Re: [DNS] Secondary Market

On behalf of the Government ?  No, they are not a Government agency and
don't act on behalf of the Government.  Unless I am mistaken auDA made
the
decision about selling/auctioning domains.

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: dns-bounces+robert.sandali=intaserve.com&#167;dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+robert.sandali=intaserve.com&#167;dotau.org]On Behalf Of
Sean K. Finn
Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2006 11:40
To: .au DNS Discussion List
Subject: Re: [DNS] Secondary Market


Auda has done it on behalf of the Australian Government, have they not?

Same rules as agents should apply.

Complain to the source, don't kill the messenger.

-Sean.

-----Original Message-----
From: dns-bounces+sean.finn=ozservers.com.au&#167;dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+sean.finn=ozservers.com.au&#167;dotau.org] On Behalf Of
Robert Sandali
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:56 AM
To: .au DNS Discussion List
Subject: Re: [DNS] Secondary Market

Are you asking whether a domain name is an asset, or why can auDA sell
and
auction domain names but the rest of the industry cannot ?

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: dns-bounces+robert.sandali=intaserve.com&#167;dotau.org
[mailto:dns-bounces+robert.sandali=intaserve.com&#167;dotau.org]On Behalf Of
tony&#167;cmon.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2006 09:11
To: .au DNS Discussion List
Cc: .au DNS Discussion List
Subject: Re: [DNS] Secondary Market



Fact: AuDA has in the past "sold" "Auctioned" and otherwise derived an
amount/s of significate magnitute for .com.au etc tese names are
considered by the australian tax office as assets of a business or
company. These "licences/assets" assist business organisations in
promoting and providing productivity for same.

My Simple question to AuDa is on what premise do they restrict the free
commercial trading of that licence/asset.

Can Auda provide a valid reason under law as to why they have
restrictive
mandates in relation to the .au domain space.

Tony


>>For capitalism to work .com.au
>>needs to be something that's ownable.
>>
>>Its not ownable for good reason.
>
> A domain name may not be "ownable" or an "asset" however a domain name
> licence
> most certainly is.  As the auDA transfer policy states:
>
> (http://auda.org.au/policies/auda-2004-03/)
> <snip>
> 3. CIRCUMSTANCES OF TRANSFER
>
> 3.1 A registrant may transfer their domain name licence to a proposed
new
> registrant if:
>
> a) (i) the registrant sells part or all of their business operations
or
> assets to the proposed new registrant, and the Deed of Sale includes
the
> transfer of the domain name licence; or
> </snip>
>
> ie - a domain name licence can be included on a deed of sale and is
> therefore
> an asset of a business.
>
> Jon
>
>
>>-- Original Message --
>>Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:58:31 +1000
>>From: "Sean K. Finn" <Sean.Finn&#167;ozservers.com.au>
>>To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>>Subject: Re: [DNS] Secondary Market
>>Reply-To: ".au DNS Discussion List" <dns&#167;dotau.org>
>>
>>
>>> oh god. why is it that some people who claim to have no objection to
>>> capitalism, display a total ignorance of its underlying philosophy?
>>
>>> Vic
>>
>>I'll Keep it short.
>>http://celebratecapitalism.org/bernsteindeclaration/english/index.html
>>and
>>http://celebratecapitalism.org
>>and slightly amusing:
>>http://celebratecapitalism.org/graphics/prodosilovecapitalism.jpg
>>
>>Summary:
>>" Capitalism is the only system based on the recognition that each
>>individual owns his life. Capitalism is the only social system in
which
>>individuals are free to pursue their rational self-interest, to own
>>property and to profit from their actions. It entrenches individual
>>rights, limited Constitutional government, and
>>political/intellectual/economic freedom."
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi Vic,
>>
>>You shouldn't beat yourself up so much. For capitalism to work .com.au
>>needs to be something that's ownable.
>>
>>Its not ownable for good reason.
>>
>>Move On.
>>
>>-Sean.
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