----- Original Message -----
From: "Internet Registry" <info&#167;internetregistry.com.au>
To: <craig&#167;proweb.net.au>
Subject: Fw: [DNS] Fw: Josh Rowe + Sanctum = a lot of spare time!


> More to forward:
>
> Bennett
>
> What business is it of Josh's if Explorer or ProWeb have breached policy?
> Are you saying that they have some sort of common interest?
>
> If domains do not have correct registration details then they need to be
> corrected. It is good to hear that Enetica has never made a mistake.
>
> It's also good to hear that black banning is back again - I thought it was
> against the law.
>
> Chesley
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bennett Oprysa" <bennett&#167;enetica.com.au>
> To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [DNS] Fw: Josh Rowe + Sanctum = a lot of spare time!
>
>
> > Chesley,
> >
> > What business is it of yours if Explorer or ProWeb have breached policy?
> > Are you saying you have some sort of common interest?
> >
> > Both Explorer and Proweb HAVE breached auDA policy, there is no doubt
> > about that, they have, at the very least, registered a number of domains
> > that are not within the appropriate policy by having invalid registrant
> > details.
> >
> > Joshua can start his list of registrars that have specifically refused
> > to deal with you by listing Enetica.
> >
> > Bennett.
> >
> >
> > Brad Norrish wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Brad
> > >
> > > Can you help me out, it seems I am unable to post to the DNS List even
> though I am subscribed.
> > >
> > > Could you see if you could post this email on my behalf?
> > >
> > > Chesley
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Internet Registry
> > > To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:31 AM
> > > Subject: Josh Rowe + Sanctum = a lot of spare time!
> > >
> > >
> > > Josh josh josh!
> > >
> > > You must be a very lonely person to spend so much time
> > > trying to find what other people are up to.
> > >
> > > Lets start with the simple stuff, clearly you are
> > > getting access to the same brilliant facts as auDA, my
> > > name is Chesley Paul Rafferty. You could use Baycorp
> > > or look at information auDA has which clearly shows my
> > > correct name or would you prefer that I called you
> > > Luke Joshua Rowe.
> > >
> > > Let's have a look at a few more facts, which as an
> > > auDA director (and someone who consistently seems to
> > > nitpick everything everyone else does) I'm suprised
> > > that you don't know.
> > >
> > > Here's a simple one for you to start with. Please
> > > point out anything that Explorer and Proweb Solutions
> > > have done that are in breach of auDA policy.
> > >
> > > Also Josh please also confirm that according to you
> > > that with the "...looming court appearance..." that I
> > > had to register 2000 domains - are you suggesting that
> > > I didnt intend to register those domain names, if so
> > > please state so as I will have my lawyers prepare
> > > documents to sue you for defamation.
> > >
> > > While you there, can you please clarify that when you
> > > state "Explorer Domains took the option of registering
> > > approximately 2000
> > > .net.au domains, which is more than double the volume
> > > they achieved for
> > > their first year
> > > (http://www.auda.org.au/docs/ausregistry-y1-0203.pdf).
> > > AusRegistry (http://www.ausregistry.com.au/) requires
> > > prepayment for
> > > domain names before being able to accept an order, so
> > > with a $100,000
> > > prepayment Explorer Domains would have done this with
> > > full knowledge of
> > > where the business was coming from.  " that you are
> > > stating that Explorer and Ausregistry are in breach of
> > > auDA policy, because I'm sure that they would be very
> > > interested to hear that coming from you.
> > >
> > > Also in that statement, also please detail which 10 or
> > > more registrars knocked back Domain Names Australia
> > > have told you that they didnt want to deal with my
> > > company.
> > >
> > > OK ... while you rush to your file of auDA policy -
> > > I'll play you for awhile.
> > >
> > > Ok how would I best play you - hmmmm... i know I'll
> > > point out everything that you are doing in breach of
> > > auDA policy. What!!!! Hold the press the holy Joshua
> > > Rowe, the highest of the high AND a DIRECTOR of auDA -
> > > surely there could be no way that you could EVER
> > > breach policy that you helped create and endorse as
> > > part of the board of auDA!
> > >
> > >
> > > Well find below folks,the horrifying depth's of
> > > Joshua's blantant abuse of auDA
> > > policy - worst of all it's the .au Domain Name
> > > Suppliers' Code of Practice
> > >
> > > sanctum - "A sacred or holy place."
> > >
> > > sanctimonious - "Making a show of sanctity; affecting
> > > saintliness;
> > > hypocritically devout or pious."
> > >
> > > Hmmm, is it possible Josh that you confused the word
> > > you wanted.
> > >
> > > The following people are the elected Directors on the
> > > Board of auDA:
> > > "Name (Organisation) Representing Elected Retires
> > > ...Joshua Rowe Demand 26 Nov 2001 2003 AGM..."
> > >
> > > The auDA Board formally endorsed the Code on 10
> > > September 2002.
> > >
> > > So Josh had been a director for almost a year when he
> > > endorsed the Code of Practice.
> > >
> > > 2.1 Compliance with the Code of Practice is mandatory
> > > for all auDA accredited registrars and their appointed
> > > resellers. A list of registrars and resellers is
> > > available on the auDA website at
> > > http://www.auda.org.au/registrars
> > >
> > > http://www.auda.org.au/cgi-bin/reseller-search?query=sanctum+internet
> > >
> > >
> > > Search Results - 1 reseller(s) found
> > > Reseller Registrar(s)
> > > Sanctum Internet Pty Ltd Enetica
> > > Last updated: Mon Sep 1 14:28:27 2003
> > >
> > > Now as we have a look at
> > > https://secure.sanctum.com.au/staff.htm:
> > >
> > > Joshua Rowe
> > > B.App.Sci. (Comp Sci)
> > > Director
> > >
> > > Alternatively go to http://www.josh.id.au/ and find
> > > Joshua Rowe - Director,
> > > Sanctum Internet Pty Ltd
> > >
> > > Let's leap into the Code down to section:
> > > 10.1 Domain Name Suppliers must fully disclose to a
> > > registrant the following minimum level of information:
> > >
> > >
> > > b) Identity of the accredited Registrar being used by
> > > the Domain Name Supplier if the Domain Name
> > > Supplier is NOT an accredited registrar including:
> > > (i) the trading name shown in the auDA list of
> > > Registrars;
> > > (ii) contact information for the registrar including
> > > telephone number in
> > > office hours, facsimile
> > > number, website address and email address;
> > > (iii) address of registered office of principal place
> > > of business;
> > > c) terms and conditions of the domain name licence;
> > > and
> > > d) processing time for domain name registrations,
> > > customer support contact
> > > information and web address link to this code of
> > > practice.
> > >
> > > JOSH - WHERE IS THIS INFORMATION? AS I KNOW HOW
> > > DEDICATED YOU ARE TO KEEPING THE INTEGRITY OF AUDA
> > > POLICY, SURELY THESE 6 AREA'S THAT YOU HAVE MISSED ARE
> > >
> > > JUST AN OVERSIGHT ON YOUR BEHALF OR MAYBE IT IS THAT
> > > YOU HAVE BEEN SO BUSY ON THIS LIST THAT YOU HAVENT HAD
> > > A CHANCE TO UPDATE YOUR SITE IN THE LAST YEAR SINCE
> > > YOU AND THE REST OF THE BOARD ENDORSED THIS POLICY?
> > >
> > > Sorry I've just realised I made an error - Sanctum
> > > does have terms and conditions at:
> > >
> > > You just follow the registration and get to
> > > https://secure.sanctum.com.au/cgi-bin/register.cgi
> > >
> > > Which says
> > > "I have read and accept the terms and conditions
> > > associated with domain
> > > registration and related services, and warrant that
> > > the above information is
> > > true and correct"
> > >
> > > This provides a link to :
> > > https://secure.sanctum.com.au/tc.html
> > >
> > > Which provides you with the following terms and
> > > conditions:
> > >
> > > "these are the terms & conditions "
> > >
> > > ** Stop looking for the rest of the terms and
> > > conditions - this is all that Sanctum provides **
> > >
> > > BUT THEN IT GETS WORSE - IT STILL KEEPS GETTING WORSE!
> > >
> > >
> > > 12.1 Domain Name Suppliers must:
> > > b) publish and observe a written complaints handling
> > > process which is available to all registrants at
> > > no charge;
> > > c) provide a web address to auDA for Consumer
> > > information, including Consumer Guide and FAQ;
> > > 15.2 Visibility and Accessibility
> > > a) Domain Name Suppliers' Complaint handling processes
> > > must:
> > > (i) be publicised to Customers and staff;
> > > (ii) include information to Customers about their
> > > right to complain; and
> > > (iii) specify how the Domain Name Supplier can be
> > > contacted in order to make a Complaint.
> > >
> > > JOSH - HELP ME OUT!! IVE BEEN LOOKING ALL OVER YOUR
> > > SITE BUT I STILL CANT
> > > FIND THIS COMPLAINT POLICY? THAT IS SO STRANGE BECAUSE
> > > AS A DIRECTOR OFF AUDA
> > > (AS YOU SO CLEARLY DISPLAY AT JOSH.ID.AU) WOULD NEVER
> > > DELIBERATELY LEAVE OFF
> > > THESE KIND OF DETAILS?
> > >
> > > PLEASE CAN YOU SORT OUT YOUR WEBSITE AS I AM SO
> > > WORRIED ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN IF NEWS OF THIS GOT
> > > OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. IT COULD DEVASTATE
> > > YOUR CHANCES OF RE-ELECTION AT THIS YEARS AGM!
> > >
> > > ALSO TO HELP CLEAR UP YOUR GOOD NAME, YOU SHOULD
> > > CLARIFY YOUR POSITION TO YOUR FELLOW DNS FRIENDS BY
> > > ANSWERING THE FOLLOWING QUESTION:
> > >
> > > DO YOU FEEL THAT YOUR SANCTUM DOESN'T HAVE TO ABIDE BY
> > > AUDA POLICY?
> > > OR DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND AUDA POLICY?
> > >
> > > Josh i have seen the same stream of information come
> > > from you for 2 years, most of it repetitive, like
> > > you're trying to impress the next group of DNS
> > > members, and I think I've only bothered to waste my
> > > time once or twice before to write on this list.
> > >
> > > However, I will still be speaking to my lawyers today to consider what
> possible legal I can take against you personally. You see I can get good
> economy's of scale with my lawyers.
> > >
> > > I would also be happy for anyone who would like to
> > > consider being a part of a representative class action
> > > against Josh (pending legal advice), to get in contact
> > > with me.
> > >
> > > Josh if you are lonely or need someone to talk to,
> > > please feel free to call me, you seem to have all my
> > > numbers anyway or send me a email and Ill give you a
> > > call, or I could even drop round and say hello at some
> > > stage.
> > >
> > > Your obsession
> > >
> > > Chesley
> > >
> > >
> > > PS John Thomson. Yes you should not piss Josh off. He is very scary
the
> way that he can do Whois look ups! I'm personally amazed most of us can
> sleep at night! More importantly how much terror would he cause if he
> started doing more Google searches. THE HORROR!!
> > >
> >
> >
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