Chris I do concede that upon further investigation that not all the .com.au domains listed were sold through the auction process. However it would appear that all may have some defect in the registration details and accuracy etc. Obviously the .net.au names were not involved in the auction process. I am glad that you are looking into these matters, particularly the registration of domains under defunct company names. Phil Wright -----Original Message----- From: Chris Disspain [mailto:ceo§auda.org.au] Sent: Friday, 23 August 2002 12:31 PM To: dns§lists.auda.org.au Subject: RE: [DNS] RE: [Oz-ISP] auDA hypocrisy (again) Phil Wright says.. " All of these domains were sold through the recent auction process so this is something that also could have potentially been picked up or noted by auDA when they were handling the registration of bidders or issue of licences to successful bidders." For clarity, taxrefunds.com.au tax.net.au/ taxagents.net.au/ etaxagents.com.au taxspecialists.com.au were not 'sold' through the recent auction process. accounting.com.au and accountancy.com.au were. However, none of that changes the possibility that these names are being offered for sale in breach of policy, a matter that we are investigating at the moment. Regards, Chris Disspain CEO - auDA ceo§auda.org.au www.auda.org.au -----Original Message----- From: Phil Wright [mailto:newsstuff§network.au.com] Sent: Friday, 23 August 2002 11:26 To: dns§lists.auda.org.au Subject: RE: [DNS] RE: [Oz-ISP] auDA hypocrisy (again) Speaking of balance and fair play in accordance to the rules...... I have been looking into a few things for a client and discovered this: I am wondering if the holder/vendor of the following would be in compliance with auDA rules??? http://www.accounting.com.au/ http://www.accountancy.com.au/ http://www.taxrefunds.com.au/ http://www.tax.net.au/ http://www.taxagents.net.au/ http://www.etaxagents.com.au/ http://www.taxspecialists.com.au/ To me it seems contrary to the spirit of fair play in the .net.au space to have "tax.net.au" as well as "taxagents.net.au" despite having so many tax related .com.au domains - what do others think? Surely auDA couldn't class these as different brands in the same way that Commodore, Astra, and Statesman are brands of Holden? Are the rules written well enough to deal with such possible deliberate squatting activity?? or were they just not detected? It would appear to me that there isn't bona-fide business operations being conducted directly in conjunction with these domains as they all point to the same page. There does however appear to be a possible (though perhaps only slight) bona-fide business operating under the name Griffin O'Dea Real Estate (www.griffinodea.com) That brings me to the point of the responsibility of Registrars: Should incidences such as mass registration (that may be potential squatting) across both .net.au and .com.au be reported to auDA by the registrar? I note that Enetica was the registrar for all of these domains bar one. Here are some nic search results: Registrar ID: R00013-AR Registrar Name: Enetica Status: ok Registrant: Tax Specialists Pty Ltd Registrant ID: ABN 073674398 Registrant ROID: C0897909-AR Registrant Contact Name: Shane ODea Registrant Email: dns§odea.net Tech ID: C0889588-AR Tech Name: Shane O Dea Tech Email: shane§griffinodea.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Registrant: Income Tax Specialists Pty Ltd Registrant ID: Other 073 674 398 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Domain ROID: D0289258-AR Domain Name: tax.net.au Last Modified: 10-Jul-2002 12:31:36 UTC Registrar ID: R00013-AR Registrar Name: Enetica Status: ok Registrant: Income Tax Specialists Pty Ltd Registrant ID: Other 073674398 Registrant ROID: C0867768-AR Registrant Contact Name: THE MANAGER Registrant Email: dns§odea.net Tech ID: C0867770-AR Tech Name: unknown Tech Email: unknown_contact§ausregistry.net.au Note: - the ABN quoted above appears to be missing the first 2 digits? - the ACN 073674398 according to the National Names Index on ASIC shows that the name of the company is in fact "TAX SPECIALISTS PTY LTD" - the same search also showed the former names of the same company were "INCOME TAX SPECIALISTS PTY LTD" and "GRIFFIN O'DEA PTY LTD" All of these domains were sold through the recent auction process so this is something that also could have potentially been picked up or noted by auDA when they were handling the registration of bidders or issue of licences to successful bidders. To a relatively lay person like myself (sic), and my client, it would appear that some if not all of these names were licensed to various names under the one ACN number by a single organisation/person using multiple entity names including former and now defunct names?? Note - that "Income Tax Specialists" was used for registration on 10 July 2002 despite the last name change for that company being "12/10/1998 205A Notification of Resolution Changing Company Name" and previous to that "27/05/1996 205A Notification of Resolution Changing Company Name" Could this be true? Is this assumption valid? I understand that I may be wrong in my assumptions but something here doesn't add up and doesn't seem to be detected or dealt with under the auDA RULES Phil Wright -----Original Message----- From: Josh Rowe [mailto:josh§email.nu] Sent: Friday, 23 August 2002 9:50 AM To: aussie-isp§aussie.net; 'Skeeve Stevens'; Dns List Subject: [DNS] RE: [Oz-ISP] auDA hipocrisy (again) auDA Published Policies http://www.auda.org.au/policy/policy-index.html Clarification of Domain Name Licence - Prohibition on Sale of Domain http://www.auda.org.au/docs/auda-2002-24.txt Interim Transfers (Change of Registrant) Policy http://www.auda.org.au/docs/auda-2002-18.txt "3. 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