Yes we are talking about the scammers. And to me Melb IT is definattly not one of them. I think that we are confusing a few things here... - Competition between resellers is what we are looking at. - The policy pannel is dealing with registrar competition. When the time comes we will all be able to read and comment on what they produce. - In the current situation resellers of Melb IT are Slamming customers with renewal notices that trick registrant into paying for a service that they do not need. THE SCAM. Not Melb IT them selves. - If a reseller fails to renew the domain name for their clients then the domain name goes back to Melb IT and they contact the custmore. This happens 28 days before expire. - What would the registrar who is facilitating the competition at the present situation flaunt the use of this information.. It's just not happening. - And I definattly do not think that deceptive practices make it a fair playing field. If you have dealt with me or Click'nGo! at all you would know different. Not really sure how you got that conclusion. Michael-Pappas. > Pappas, > > We are talking scammers, not competition...competition happens on equal > terms based on real strategy, you know with people that have enough > brains to find new original ideas to attract customers ... of course > maybe you think that deceiving people is good fair strategy that > enables everybody to compete on a fair ground ...do you ? > > > Ginger > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael-Pappas [mailto:auda§michael-pappas.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 11:46 AM > To: auda.org.au > Subject: Re: [DNS] INTERNET NAME GROUP - UNSOLICITED RENEWAL NOTICE > REQUESTS REGISTR Y KEY > > > Until such time as there are competing regirtrars Melb IT is the sole > registrar... why would they need the Key? We are talking reseller > competition for now. > > Michael-Pappas > >> Michael wrote >> >> If you are receiving notice from your original reseller or Melb IT >> directly you would not have to provide the key as the domain name is >> already with them. >> >> MelbIT should be required to be provided with the registry key from >> the registrant (I thought that issue had been delt with) the same as >> with any other transfer. What gives them an exemption we are talking >> competition here... >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Michael-Pappas" <auda§michael-pappas.com> >> To: "auda.org.au " <dns§lists.auda.org.au> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 9:13 PM >> Subject: Re: [DNS] INTERNET NAME GROUP - UNSOLICITED RENEWAL NOTICE >> REQUESTS REGISTR Y KEY >> >> >>> > Is this correct? >>> >>> Yes and no. In order to renew a domain name Melb IT have made >>> provisions for transfer of .com.au domain names between accredited >>> resellers. So say you originally registered your domain name through >>> one reseller and found another in the two year period and wanted to >>> change. Then you would required to provide that new reseller the >>> registry key to move the domain name to their management within the >>> Melb IT system and flag that domain name to their management. >>> >>> >>> > Do I need to supply my registry key to affect renewal >>> > of my domain name? >>> >>> If you are receiving notice from your original reseller or Melb IT >> directly >>> you would not have to provide the key as the domain name is already >>> with them. >>> >>> >>> >>> > I have not had any previous dealings with Internet >>> > Name Group. I am a sole proprietor so it is impossible that any >>> > member of my staff could have requested a renewal from Internet >>> > Name Group as I do not have any staff. This seems like business >>> > solicitation in it's purest form. >>> > >>> >>> Not really sure what you are saying.. Do you or don't you have staff? >>> If you do it's more than possible.. if you don't then highly unlikely >>> as you would know if you provided the Reg Key to them. >>> >>> > At uni we are taught that IS professionals should not misuse the >>> > skills they have learnt for underhandedly obtaining information, >>> > and that people's privacy should be respected. An example was made >>> > of companies that send renewal notices for domain names that look >>> > like invoices,but I didn't realise that one of the companies >>> > involved was (or claims to be) an Accredited .com.au Registrar. >>> > >>> >>> Unfortunately what people are taught does not mean that they do it. >>> Porovisionaly accredited registrars a the moment does not really mean >>> that much... it the reseller that follow the Interim code of >>> practice. >>> >>> http://www.auda.org.au/docs/Interim_COP.pdf >>> >>> I do remember that there is a list on the www.auda.org.au site but >>> for the life of me I can't find it. >>> >>> > Are there current stats on how many consumers are affected by this >>> > practice? Where did this company get my details from? Are they >>> > really an accredited registrar? Why would an accredited registrar >>> > send me a deceptive unsolicited renewal advice? >>> > >>> >>> I really doubt it. >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> Michael-Pappas. >>> www.clickngo.com.au >>> >>> >>> > All comments appreciated. >>> > >>> > Kind Regards, >>> > >>> > Max Sylvester >>> > (University Student and part time IT support) >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - > - >>> - >>> > List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >>> > http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ Please do not retransmit articles >>> > on this list without permission of the author, further information >>> > at the above URL. (327 subscribers.) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - > - >> - >>> List policy, unsubscribing and archives => >> http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/ >>> Please do not retransmit articles on this list without permission of >>> the author, further information at the above URL. 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