Re: [DNS] FACTS & RESPONSIBILITIES

Re: [DNS] FACTS & RESPONSIBILITIES

From: Michael-Pappas <auda§michael-pappas.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:07:21 +1100 (EST)
If you in fact have the time to do this, then all well and good. For the
most part the reputable resellers at the moment do everything that they can
to educate, maintain and try to keep ahead of the shonky resellers. This is
where most of our time is spent in the current situation. For me I could
not even begin to think about an extra site to maintain and keep.

People are giving there views and asking for something to happen. As the
current resellers agreements are Melb IT's, they are the only one who can
crack down on these resellers at the present time, the auDA does not have
these agreements in have with the resellers them selves. The more of us
that complain to the ACCC and Melb IT, maybe we can force something to
happen.

As we all move toward the registry being in place this will all change and
all of our views and banter that happens here and outside this list will be
actioned and we will see a stronger domain industry here in Oz.

Good thing come to those who wait. Not to say that we sit on our hands and
do nothing, educate the clients that you have and try to combat this on a
home front until such a time as we can see agreements being put in place
that will help us all play on a level ground. But with us taking the time
to make sure that we have the right agreements, policies can only benefit
what we all want to achieve.

Regards,

Michael-Pappas



> Im sick of hearing most of you moan about the industry needing an
> overhaul  and nothing being done about it. Its IRA this ING that etc
> etc...
>
> How about this I will pay for the sites maintenance and updating.
>
> Im putting my money where my mouth is.
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Michael-Pappas" <auda&#167;michael-pappas.com>
>>Reply-To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>>To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
>>Subject: Re: [DNS] FACTS & RESPONSIBILITIES
>>Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:54:07 +1100 (EST)
>>
>>Jon,
>>
>>With everything that is happening, movement to registry, code of
>>conduct, registrar accreditation and more, we would be more than
>>willing to review such a site and depending on content and the way in
>>which the information was presented refer our clients to this site for
>>up to date information regarding the FACTS about .au domains.
>>
>>I believe such a site will need to be reviewed by the auDA and be given
>>a go ahead to represent the hole community.
>>
>>Michael-Pappas
>>www.clickngo.com.au
>>
>> > Hi Jon,
>> >
>> > I agree with you here. We all should stop bitching about specific
>> > registries but I mean, what's been done about it?
>> >
>> > Maybe we could start a consumer awareness web site for .com.au
>> > registrants to refer to when the are confused about what's going on
>> > in the .au domain registration industry.
>> >
>> > I am willing to put a site together to inform consumers from ISPs,
>> > web hosts and domain registries on what's going on without any ads
>> > etc on it. A site that all the companies who abide by the 'Code of
>> > Conduct' including a blacklist of domain registries that can send
>> > their customers to get the most up-to-date information from. Even
>> > have a partition of registries that have a good track record.
>> >
>> > Would anyone be interested sending their confused customers to such
>> > a site?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Nigel
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jon Lawrence" <jon&#167;jonlawrence.com>
>> > To: <dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au>
>> > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 3:04 AM
>> > Subject: RE: [DNS] FACTS & RESPONSIBILITIES
>> >
>> >
>> >> Well...the ICANN Registrar Constituency has been talking about a
>> >> code of conduct for over two years, Nominet (uk registry) has also
>> >> been failed to implement anything for a similar length of time.
>> >>
>> >> If auDA is able to facilitate the adoption of a code of conduct
>> >> within 6 months of registrar competition being introduced then it
>> >> will be a
>> > considerable
>> >> achievement.
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps if you redirected some of the energy you expend on your
>> >> campaigns against specific registrars towards actually achieving
>> >> this goal then the concerns you have about certain business models
>> >> are more likely to be
>> > resolved
>> >> sooner rather than later with the adoption of an effective and
>> >> enforceable code.
>> >>
>> >> jon
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-- Original Message --
>> >> >Reply-To: dns&#167;lists.auda.org.au
>> >> >From: "Ginger Fish" <ginger-fish&#167;scifi-art.com>
>> >> >To: "Dns&#167;Lists.Auda.Org.Au" <dns§lists.auda.org.au>
>> >> >Cc: <inquiries&#167;theage.com.au>,
>> >> > <hsletters&#167;hwt.newsltd.com.au>,
>> >> > <custserv_time&#167;timeinc.com>
>> >> >Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 02:12:56 +1100
>> >> >Subject: [DNS] FACTS & RESPONSABILITIES
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Surely at least one newspaper out there feels the responsability
>> >> >to inform consumers...
>> >> >
>> >> >Test-Bed Registrars/Provisionally Accredited Registrars
>> >> >auDA chooses wisely while the rest of the world looks on and
>> >> >laughs. A disgraceful state of affairs and yet this is what we're
>> >> >stuck with in  Australia.
>> >> >
>> >> >Self regulation works if you're in the bed or in the loop.
>> >> >Is there anyone out there who gives a damn?
>> >> >
>> >> >I CAN SEE IT NOW, REGISTRARS AGREEMENTS SIGNED,
>> >> >CODE OF CONDUCT PUT IN PLACE 6 MONTHS LATER.
>> >> >--- CAN ANYONE OUT THERE SEE A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH
>> >> >THIS???????
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >NET REGISTRY  - PROVISIONALLY ACCREDITED REGISTRAR
>> >> >19 Oct 2001 auDA moves swiftly to protect AUNIC database
>> >> >http://www.auda.org.au/about/news/2001101901.html
>> >> >
>> >> >Reports confirm that NetRegistry copied data in bulk from
>> >> >Australia's AUNIC database which it hosted on behalf of auDA.
>> >> >http://www.icannwatch.org/article.php?sid=420
>> >> >
>> >> >auDA switches off NetRegistry
>> >> >http://www.itnews.com.au/story.cfm?ID=8220
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >RARE-DOMAINS PTY LTD - TEST-BED REGISTRAR
>> >> >Is this Peter Dean, Director of auDA, Director of Instra, mate of
>> >> >Chris Dispain, with a commercial website sitting on
>> >> >www.aunic.com.au
>> >>
>> >> > ?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >INTERNET NAME GROUP  - PROVISIONALLY ACCREDITED REGISTRAR
>> >> >Internet Name Group scam
>> >> >http://www.auda.org.au/list/dns/archive/032001/0060.html
>> >> >
>> >> >The greed behind gratuitous grace
>> >> >http://www.smh.com.au/icon/0111/13/news4.html
>> >> >
>> >> >Riddle of 10-year deals on .au names with a two-year life
>> >> >http://it.mycareer.com.au/networking/20010410/A35593-2001Apr10.html
>> >> >
>> >> >Name seller flogs .biz names via asic.com
>> >> >http://www.smh.com.au/news/0106/22/biztech/biztech15.html
>> >> >
>> >> >"Spam" Attack Prompts Suspension By Domainz.
>> >> >http://www.aardvark.co.nz/pr2001/090601.htm
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>http://www.idg.net.nz/webhome.nsf/UNID/D6AC0A53F05ECFC6CC256ABF00090DE4!
>>ope
>> > n
>> >> >document
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Isn't there a problem here ?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Ginger
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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