Re: [DNS] why not just make whatever.au available

Re: [DNS] why not just make whatever.au available

From: Kenneth B <kb§kb.au.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:03:40 +1000
> Web Access has devoted itself to this industry since 1998 and in the
recent
> promo from INWW, we were informed that we were in the top ten new domain
> registrations for channel partners for the last 2 years in .com.au
>
> As such we have the right to this information, and I suggest that you
> respond
> appropriately. I will not tolerate sidestepping of these issues much
longer.

Demanding things from auDA will get you no-where...
I also hold high doubt's that they respond to threats!

All the answers are on the 'large' auDA website, everything that auDA is
documented there!
If you dont see the information, it is likely that the information you are
looking for does not exist!

This is a bizi time for the .au domain system.  Nothing much will happen
though without auDA members being notified.  - well i hope so anyway.. ;)

Also, being a channel partner of Melbourne IT in no way obliges auDA to
respond.  Another reason why your *threat* might go unanswered....

Are you a member of auDA ?    (sorry if you allready answered this)

Kenneth Brownsmith
kb&#167;kb.au.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry Hoholis" <webmaster&#167;webaccess.com.au>
To: <dns&#167;auda.org.au>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 5:41 PM
Subject: RE: [DNS] why not just make whatever.au available


> Chris,
>
> I had a read of all documents and the first three make no mention
whatsoever
> of auctioning domains let alone the process that was used to come to this
> decision.
>
> The last document at the very end makes mention of it very briefly:
>
> " Generic domain names will be allocated via an auction, pursuant to the
> proposal contained in the Name Panel's final report on domain name policy.
> auDA's present intention is to conduct the auction towards the end of the
> year. "
>
> I then went and had a look at the Name Panel's final report, which was
> actually the second link you gave me, and as I have already stated this
> makes no mention whatsoever of auctioning domains.
>
> I will ask yet again therefore:
>
> 1. Who stands to benefit financially from the auctioning of domain names?
> 2. Who and how was the decision to auction domain names reached?
> 3. What other options, if any were considered, and why were they
dismissed?
> 4. Why is the process, that you state, information for is all there,
hidden?
>
> Web Access has devoted itself to this industry since 1998 and in the
recent
> promo from INWW, we were informed that we were in the top ten new domain
> registrations for channel partners for the last 2 years in .com.au
>
> As such we have the right to this information, and I suggest that you
> respond
> appropriately. I will not tolerate sidestepping of these issues much
longer.
>
> I await your response.
>
> Best Regards,
> Harry Hoholis
> http://www.webaccess.net.au
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Disspain [mailto:ceo&#167;auda.org.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2001 5:07 PM
> To: dns&#167;auda.org.au
> Subject: RE: [DNS] why not just make whatever.au available
>
>
> Harry,
>
> http://www.auda.org.au/panel/name/
>
> http://www.auda.org.au/docs/name-final.html
>
> http://www.auda.org.au/panel/name/papers/new2LDsfinal.html
>
> http://www.auda.org.au/docs/new-domains.html
>
>
>
> Chris Disspain
> CEO - auDA
> ceo&#167;auda.org.au
> +61-3-9226-9495
> www.auda.org.au
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Hoholis [mailto:webmaster&#167;webaccess.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2001 16:20
> To: dns&#167;auda.org.au
> Subject: RE: [DNS] why not just make whatever.au available
>
> Dear Chris,
>
> I had a read of http://www.auda.org.au/docs/public-forum-report.html
> and there is no mention there whatsoever of the issues I have raised.
>
> A url showing clearly where these issues have been addressed would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> I await your response.
>
> Best Regards,
> Harry Hoholis
> http://www.webaccess.net.au
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Disspain [mailto:ceo&#167;auda.org.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2001 3:08 PM
> To: dns&#167;auda.org.au
> Subject: RE: [DNS] why not just make whatever.au available
>
>
> Check out the Names Panel Report. All the information is there.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris Disspain
> CEO - auDA
> ceo&#167;auda.org.au
> +61-3-9226-9495
> www.auda.org.au
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harry Hoholis [mailto:webmaster&#167;webaccess.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2001 13:22
> To: dns&#167;auda.org.au
> Subject: RE: [DNS] why not just make whatever.au available
>
> Yes this has been brought up before, and I have checked the
> archives, but the responses were not adequate and they
> talked around the issue raised, rather than addressing it
> directly.
>
> I would like a public statement from auDa as to who stands to
> benefit the most from auctioning domain names.
>
> I would like to know how it is possible that this was perceived
> to be the fairest option and how this decision came about.
>
> It is clearly an unfair process and should be seriously
> reconsidered. Why not release previously generic tagged .com.au
> domains in a similar fashion to the .biz release process.
>
> You can several good points as to why not release .au this way
> but I cannot see how this applies to .com.au
>
> I await your response.
>
> Best Regards,
> Harry Hoholis
> http://www.webaccess.net.au
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth B [mailto:kb&#167;kb.au.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 7:36 PM
> To: dns&#167;auda.org.au
> Subject: Re: [DNS] why not just make whatever.au available
>
>
> I think I remember someone bringing up something like this before ?
>
> You could check the Archives....
>
> Kenneth Brownsmith
> kb&#167;kb.au.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Hoholis" <webmaster&#167;webaccess.com.au>
> To: <dns&#167;auda.org.au>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:21 PM
> Subject: RE: [DNS] why not just make whatever.au available
>
>
> > Sure, I can understand that, but starting fresh with a .biz
> > type release of .au would be better than the proposed auctioning
> > of previously restricted .com.au domains
> >
> > I simply think that auctioning domains is distasteful and not
> > in anyone's best interest unless you happen to have the cash
> > to bid more than anyone else.
> >
> > I await some viewpoints on this.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Harry Hoholis
> > http://www.webaccess.net.au
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DPF [mailto:david&#167;farrar.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 12 September 2001 6:29 PM
> > To: dns&#167;auda.org.au
> > Subject: Re: [DNS] why not just make whatever.au available
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:07:15 +1000, "Harry Hoholis"
> > <webmaster&#167;webaccess.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > >I have been following the list for some time with interest.
> > >
> > >I have searched the auda web site and cannot find any reasoning as
> > >to why the .au namespace itself is not simply made available to
> > >the Australian public and released in a similar fashion as .biz
> > >
> > >Would this not solve alot a problems?
> >
> > We have debated this from time to time in .nz also.
> >
> > If one had never had 2LDs it could be a good idea but it would be
> > chaotic to try to bring it at a late stage.
> >
> > Beyond doubt every person who has domainname.com.au would want
> > domainname.au.  So you would effectively force several hundred
> > thousand companies to register an additional name.
> >
> > Also what about when you have conflicts between say domainname.com.au
> > and domainname.org.au and they both want domainname.au - who gets it?
> >
> > The problems are not insoluble but they seem to generate more hassles
> > that anything they solve.
> >
> > DPF
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